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xmb Terminus is vaporware

vaporware - 5-12-2012 at 10:50 PM

xmb Terminus is vaporware


After Michael at xmbforum made specific posts stating that xmb Terminus would not be based on xmb existing code, I read a recent post of his saying that xmb 1.9.11.13 is Terminus.
I posted at xmbforum asking about this. His response was that 1.9.11.13 was not Terminus and then two posts later he said 1.9.11.13 was Terminus. In either case, Michael had also previously said he would be releasing 1.9.11.13 soon - never did he say it would a copy of the xmb group's version, otherwise it would not have taken him months to put the xmb groups (miqrogroove's) version available to download.

Based on his backtracking, editing of his own posts and also removing of his own posts (and my posts) about Terminus, my initial thoughts when he took on the role at xmbforum, along with the fact that he cannot support even basic hack requests, leave me no doubt that he is in over his level of competence and that his ego led him to take on the role at xmbforum.

The initial much hyped promised feature set Terminus by Michael is vaporware.

anendeth - 5-14-2012 at 10:42 AM

Quote: Originally posted by vaporware  
xmb Terminus is vaporware


After Michael at xmbforum made specific posts stating that xmb Terminus would not be based on xmb existing code, I read a recent post of his saying that xmb 1.9.11.13 is Terminus.
I posted at xmbforum asking about this. His response was that 1.9.11.13 was not Terminus and then two posts later he said 1.9.11.13 was Terminus. In either case, Michael had also previously said he would be releasing 1.9.11.13 soon - never did he say it would a copy of the xmb group's version, otherwise it would not have taken him months to put the xmb groups (miqrogroove's) version available to download.

Based on his backtracking, editing of his own posts and also removing of his own posts (and my posts) about Terminus, my initial thoughts when he took on the role at xmbforum, along with the fact that he cannot support even basic hack requests, leave me no doubt that he is in over his level of competence and that his ego led him to take on the role at xmbforum.

The initial much hyped promised feature set Terminus by Michael is vaporware.


Wait, he deleted your posts?

kuba1 - 5-14-2012 at 09:09 PM

vaporware .... probably an accurate description based on history.

John Briggs - 5-15-2012 at 05:41 AM

Look, He is the sole reason XMB dropped off after I left. He and Nick came in and took over and destroyed it and then abandoned it. Remember the 1.9.9 fiasco folks? He cannot code and he is not a developer or mod creator. He is the reason why Rob and John stepped up and thank god they did.

When I told iEntry I would handle XMB temporarily this last time to help transition a peaceful agreement between the former XMB staff back to old site, he U2Ued me trying to get back on staff. Once I saw that crap and the fact that no one wanted to go back to the old site for many valid reasons, I left it back to iEntry and demoted myself. I knew it would only be a day or so before Michael contacted them and took the reigns.

He is all vapor. XMB died in his hands already because he is inept. Nothing will change that fact.

You guys should not even entertain discussing that site or him in my opinion. Anyone who knows anything about him knows he is no good.

anendeth - 5-15-2012 at 01:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John Briggs  
Look, He is the sole reason XMB dropped off after I left. He and Nick came in and took over and destroyed it and then abandoned it. Remember the 1.9.9 fiasco folks? He cannot code and he is not a developer or mod creator. He is the reason why Rob and John stepped up and thank god they did.

When I told iEntry I would handle XMB temporarily this last time to help transition a peaceful agreement between the former XMB staff back to old site, he U2Ued me trying to get back on staff. Once I saw that crap and the fact that no one wanted to go back to the old site for many valid reasons, I left it back to iEntry and demoted myself. I knew it would only be a day or so before Michael contacted them and took the reigns.

He is all vapor. XMB died in his hands already because he is inept. Nothing will change that fact.

You guys should not even entertain discussing that site or him in my opinion. Anyone who knows anything about him knows he is no good.


Very true. Only time will show now.

alkutob - 5-15-2012 at 01:33 PM

Who released XMB 1.9.11.13 ?
xmbforum2.com
or
xmbforum.com ????????

Is there any difference between the two releases ?
We always trust miqrogroove , and we need to follow him

thanks

lottos - 5-15-2012 at 09:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by alkutob  
Who released XMB 1.9.11.13 ?
xmbforum2.com
or
xmbforum.com ????????

Is there any difference between the two releases ?
We always trust miqrogroove , and we need to follow him

thanks


miqrogroove released XMB 1.9.11.13 and miqrogroove is at xmbforum2.com

vamsee - 5-16-2012 at 07:59 PM

is there any work (i guess david) going on xmb 2.0 here ?
or is it also vaporware

DavidT - 5-16-2012 at 09:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by vamsee  
is there any work (i guess david) going on xmb 2.0 here ?
or is it also vaporware

I've got a summer off from college now, might have a beta release of 2.0 some time over the next 2-4 months :)

- David

alkutob - 5-17-2012 at 06:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lottos  
miqrogroove released XMB 1.9.11.13 and miqrogroove is at xmbforum2.com


But xmbforum.com is launched at xmbforum.com

Is it miqrogroove's copy ?

or there is a difference between the two releases ?

thank you

lottos - 5-17-2012 at 10:35 PM

XMB 1.9.11.13 at xmbforum.com is miqrogroove's work, as has been most of the 1.9.11 series.

There may be one difference that will have no impact on your forum.

John Briggs - 5-18-2012 at 02:56 PM

If people who use XMB forum software want viable and current security, stability and support for there XMB needs then stick it out here. 1.9.11 is essentially all of Robert's work. If you want to trust solid and wel rounded and secure code and support then stick it out here and support Robert. Everything XMB's original .com has to offer is Robert's work. There are no coders or developers there and they do not have the best interests of keeping XMB end users safe and stable.

EdmundAmanda - 6-5-2012 at 12:16 AM

Edmund say hello to all.

vamsee - 9-22-2012 at 02:36 AM

Quote: Originally posted by DavidT  
Quote: Originally posted by vamsee  
is there any work (i guess david) going on xmb 2.0 here ?
or is it also vaporware

I've got a summer off from college now, might have a beta release of 2.0 some time over the next 2-4 months :)

- David


Hi David.T, any update?

lottos - 9-22-2012 at 09:41 PM

Last time he logged on was over 2 months ago and last time I looked, his website wasn't online. V2 is a dead duck.

vamsee - 9-24-2012 at 02:56 AM

as of now xmb 1.9.11 is doing the job but if there is no future development then i think it would be better to consider migration/conversion to other forum scripts lik vbulletin/SMF/phpBB.
biggest advantage of xmb which i like is, you dont have to update all themes for every mod/hack.
just update few php files and templates and thats enough. But in phpbb/smf , you need to update each theme's files.

advantage in smf is that package manager does the installation/uninstallation of mods/hacks easily for you.
wish there was such feature in xmb too

Mouser - 9-24-2012 at 08:08 AM

We talked about that once vamsee. Maybe you can find the thread of that. In the 1.9 tree that is impossible to implement.


vamsee - 9-24-2012 at 09:08 AM

yeah i remember.
that is why i've been asking about xmb 2.0 progress

Mouser - 9-24-2012 at 09:52 AM

I'm kind of interested in the progress as well.
Until now, it's only 1 person working on it as far as I know. So we can't expect too much.
But what David showed before, already looked nice :)